Comments on: A new series http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/ This blog, much like my life, is a work in progress. Mon, 07 May 2012 17:44:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ravi http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-39593 Ravi Sun, 08 Jul 2007 00:44:52 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-39593 To discerning music listeners, Rafi was and is the best ever playback singer to come out of the sub-continent. Just sample their entire bodies of works, and you will realize that comparing Kishore to him is a mere joke. Still, Kishore was good in his own right and also a very popular singer, but almost a non-entity as a singer when you compare him to Rafi. To discerning music listeners, Rafi was and is the best ever playback singer to come out of the sub-continent. Just sample their entire bodies of works, and you will realize that comparing Kishore to him is a mere joke. Still, Kishore was good in his own right and also a very popular singer, but almost a non-entity as a singer when you compare him to Rafi.

]]> By: Deepak Jeswal http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-36673 Deepak Jeswal Sun, 27 May 2007 04:21:55 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-36673 And, oh, while on Rahul Roy, how about reviewing a film called *wink wink* MEGHA?! :P (Pls. dont butcher the songs too much, I quite loved the title number) And, oh, while on Rahul Roy, how about reviewing a film called *wink wink* MEGHA?! :P (Pls. dont butcher the songs too much, I quite loved the title number)

]]> By: Deepak Jeswal http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-36667 Deepak Jeswal Sun, 27 May 2007 03:01:19 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-36667 How about 'reviewing' BAHAAR AANE TAK - the nineties film with a hero having nostrils the size of canon-barrel with a wooden-faced Moon Moon Sen (though a fine wood to look at, must admit)...remember, 'Kaali teri choti te paranda tera laal ni' on Sumeet Saigal and Rupa Ganguli (in pink(?) dress). And then there was Anuradha Paudwal who sang 'Mohabbat inayat karam dekhte hain' as if she wanted to fight a serious bout of constipation (hear the way she sings the word 'kasam'). And more 'gems' like LAL DUPATTA MAL MAL KA, or its sequel PHIR LEHRAYA LAL DUPATTA, or that splendid 'social' drama GAJAB TAMASHA, where Rahul Roy and Anu Aggarwal played 'jamadaars'! Or even better, another Rahul Roy flick, the 'ghost'ly PYAAR KA SAAYA (with 'sensational' Sheeba:P)! It'd be fun reading about them... Else, I don't think our tastes can ever match in music - I can't ever bring myself to love any OP Nayyar number, nor can I ever 'hate' Lata Mangeshkar's voice - her voice even in recent years, is the most beautiful music to my ears, and I crave for her latest releases like a junkie does for his next shot! How about ‘reviewing’ BAHAAR AANE TAK – the nineties film with a hero having nostrils the size of canon-barrel with a wooden-faced Moon Moon Sen (though a fine wood to look at, must admit)…remember, ‘Kaali teri choti te paranda tera laal ni’ on Sumeet Saigal and Rupa Ganguli (in pink(?) dress). And then there was Anuradha Paudwal who sang ‘Mohabbat inayat karam dekhte hain’ as if she wanted to fight a serious bout of constipation (hear the way she sings the word ‘kasam’).

And more ‘gems’ like LAL DUPATTA MAL MAL KA, or its sequel PHIR LEHRAYA LAL DUPATTA, or that splendid ‘social’ drama GAJAB TAMASHA, where Rahul Roy and Anu Aggarwal played ‘jamadaars’! Or even better, another Rahul Roy flick, the ‘ghost’ly PYAAR KA SAAYA (with ‘sensational’ Sheeba:P)!

It’d be fun reading about them…

Else, I don’t think our tastes can ever match in music – I can’t ever bring myself to love any OP Nayyar number, nor can I ever ‘hate’ Lata Mangeshkar’s voice – her voice even in recent years, is the most beautiful music to my ears, and I crave for her latest releases like a junkie does for his next shot!

]]> By: V http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-35829 V Wed, 16 May 2007 05:04:17 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-35829 Ohh.. sorry I didn't mean to offend a SonuFan.. but I beg to differ on the nasal part .. I too feel he is a good singer.. a good nasal singer (an example of how to use the nose to good effect, I guess..) Ohh.. sorry I didn’t mean to offend a SonuFan..
but I beg to differ on the nasal part ..
I too feel he is a good singer..
a good nasal singer (an example of how to use the nose to good effect, I guess..)

]]> By: SonuFan http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-35720 SonuFan Sun, 13 May 2007 13:06:27 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-35720 I can't believe you want to add Sonu Nigam to a list of the most nasal singers! He is pretty amazing, and definitely does NOT sing nasally. As for Himesh, that's wholly different - he's an impossibly nasal singer, true. I can’t believe you want to add Sonu Nigam to a list of the most nasal singers! He is pretty amazing, and definitely does NOT sing nasally. As for Himesh, that’s wholly different – he’s an impossibly nasal singer, true.

]]> By: V http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-35709 V Sun, 13 May 2007 06:42:18 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-35709 how about compiling a list of nasal and throaty Bolly/Kolly/Tollywood singers and songs and ranking them on a scale of nasal allergy/tonsilitis? I am guessing Kumar Sanu, Himesh, Sonu Nigam and Unnikrishnan make the nasal list automatically - while the lead singers who sang "pyaar to hona hi thaa" probably win the tonsilitis category hands down. how about compiling a list of nasal and throaty Bolly/Kolly/Tollywood singers and songs and ranking them on a scale of nasal allergy/tonsilitis? I am guessing Kumar Sanu, Himesh, Sonu Nigam and Unnikrishnan make the nasal list automatically – while the lead singers who sang “pyaar to hona hi thaa” probably win the tonsilitis category hands down.

]]> By: Nandu http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-35159 Nandu Wed, 02 May 2007 14:29:41 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-35159 Since I came upon this only now, am commenting only now! Excellent idea....but may I make a suggestion? If you're going to do one movie at a time, we're all gonna be here until kingdom come. How about working with composers/time periods/lyricists (etc.) and examining the collective body of work? I know that for someone like RD or Gulzar or Asha or Kishore or Rafi, this is pretty much an impossibility, where does one start and where does it end? But surely, you should be in a position to think of further sub-categories to work with (happy v sad, earlier work v later, solos v duets, unappreciated gems which never made it big, etc). For others yet, it should be possible to do this in 1 or maybe 2 posts - Suresh Wadkar, Pankaj/Manhar Udhas, etc (they've done some brilliant songs, but not too much movie-based work that I know off). But, of course, your blog and your call...:) And if you would prefer to continue the movie-based thing, the requests are Ghar, Masoom, Ijaazat, Sagar, Phir Teri Kahani Yaad Aayi, Disco Dancer <span class="recipient">[NOT Dance Dance!:-)]</span>, Swades, 1942-A Love Story, I could keep going on and on.....:) One final request, could you do a post on the one-song wonder movies, you know, movies where the rest of the music was only average, but one song was brilliant! Jeevan ke Din from Bade Dilwala or Tu Is Tarah Se from Aap To Aise Na The spring to mind....:) Since I came upon this only now, am commenting only now! Excellent idea….but may I make a suggestion? If you’re going to do one movie at a time, we’re all gonna be here until kingdom come. How about working with composers/time periods/lyricists (etc.) and examining the collective body of work? I know that for someone like RD or Gulzar or Asha or Kishore or Rafi, this is pretty much an impossibility, where does one start and where does it end? But surely, you should be in a position to think of further sub-categories to work with (happy v sad, earlier work v later, solos v duets, unappreciated gems which never made it big, etc). For others yet, it should be possible to do this in 1 or maybe 2 posts – Suresh Wadkar, Pankaj/Manhar Udhas, etc (they’ve done some brilliant songs, but not too much movie-based work that I know off).

But, of course, your blog and your call…:) And if you would prefer to continue the movie-based thing, the requests are Ghar, Masoom, Ijaazat, Sagar, Phir Teri Kahani Yaad Aayi, Disco Dancer [NOT Dance Dance!:-)], Swades, 1942-A Love Story, I could keep going on and on…..:)
One final request, could you do a post on the one-song wonder movies, you know, movies where the rest of the music was only average, but one song was brilliant! Jeevan ke Din from Bade Dilwala or Tu Is Tarah Se from Aap To Aise Na The spring to mind….:)

]]> By: bhuvan http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-34916 bhuvan Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:30:58 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-34916 <strong>Megha</strong> oops..! I never meant to insult the public. Also, I promise not to invoke 'the millions' line hereafter. Now, when I read that, it sucks. Big time.. I agree that every single opinion is as valuable as the consensus itself. Well, as I said before, except for the 'beedi' song from omkara, none of it 'worked for me'. You can also consider me to be one of the ignorant lot, since I had no idea there was a RMIM award, nor they even voted omkara higher than RDB. What I am trying to convey here is not whether the public is a fool or smart. It does not actually matter if you got hooked by the songs. Personally, I LOVE RDB.. As a hard-core A.R.Rahman fan, I will even admit that I am favorably disposed towards him. But, after ManiRatnam-A.R.Rahman and A.R.Rahman-Ashutosh Gowariker combos, I felt RDB was right up there. Each song felt so good to listen. Time and again. Especially, Khalbali. I guess, the exact reason why you did not like it, was the reason I fell for. It does not conform to any genre. You cannot just slot Khalbali into a specific genre. When I said it created a different genre, I meant this. Khalbali is a genre of its own. I did not for a moment feel that it was trying to be so many things and could not achieve anything. I used to got crazy (and still do) everytime the "...zindeeeee.." part used to come on. I actually have no knowledge of either hindi or music in particular. I have no idea what the lyrics mean in any of the song. So, for any hindi song the music occupies the priority for me. Also, I have no freakin' clue about the raagas or swaras involved. So, if you are asking me about 'Khalbali's genre, I have no clue. But, it sounds so f**kin good. I had no idea that some of the people (for instance, you) cannot accept Khalbali just because you felt it was more of a mixmash than an original masterpiece. So, I guess thats about it. Also, I have no clue whatsoever about your latest post. I have never even heard about the 'technicians' you mentioned. I am a born tamil and can speak telugu fairly well (that explains about Chiru and the latest Mahesh Babu :) ) But cannot understand hindi for nuts. So, I am not exactly eligible to comment on that. But I do hope, that you notice that I am almost publishing a blogpost here. And then comment on whether my opinion here conveys why I felt RDB was better than Omkara in 2006. <strong>gvenum</strong> When I said about being diverse, I meant the different kinds of genres in a single soundtrack (and of course, which also tells us about the different instruments and the orchestration he has achieved.) The carefree, yet energetic 'Paathshaala' ( the singing is carefree, but the music which accompanies the singing is energetic and makes you get onto the dance floor) or the romantic 'Tu bin...' or the soul-stirring 'Lukka Chuppi' (only a few days back one of my friends explained to me what exactly each line of the lyrics in this song meant, and needless to say, I was floored..) Or Khalbali (Oh my god, I cannot even imagine how he thought of and composed this. Just brilliant, if you ask me..) the peppy 'Rang de Basanti' (I just love it, when the sweet voice of Chitra finds its way into our hearts..) Each song is as diverse as it can get,(you can at the most club 'tu bin..' and 'lukka chuppi..' together) and yet, was just awesome.. And I cannot understand hindi. Not yet... Also, when when you said IR has got this 'green' factor, I can agree with that. But, it doesn't mean that A.R.Rahman was not able to achieve that. IR was (and is) more famous for the melodies that he created than for the 'peppy' (or whatever we can call them) songs he composed. Also, films at that time were not open to this kind of 'experimentation' and so we can say IR never had the chance to try his hand at different genres. But, it will be fair to say, that given the state of technological advances we have now and compared to IR's time, I doubt if he could have made it. Even now, he composes with his 'harmonium' and later tries to do the arranging and mixing. Whenever we has tried to be compose songs or fuse different genres, he has not been able to make it. So, IR's songs are considered to have that 'green' factor are those melodies only. And he did lots of them because they were needed. If you consider the melodies A.R.Rahman has composed, you would find they were no less. Infact, some of them like "Yenna Solla Pogirai" from 'Kandukondain Kandukondain' (a Tamil film and Shankar Mahathevan sang that song and received a national award for that..) were just out of this world. So, it is really unfair to say A.R.Rahman's songs does not have that 'green' factor. It does. But, in the case of A.R.Rahman, if he was different from IlayaRaaja, then it must be said that he dared to be different. (It must be acknowledged that he had a fantastic director like ManiRatnam to mentor him and back him) But, A.R.Rahman's music has, more often than not, been about the layers. I mean, other composers can virtually lift one of the sounds on a loop in a background and use 'that' tune for themselves. I am not sure I am able to explain this as well as I would have liked. But, let me give an example to help you understand what I am trying to convey. Now, I have been listening to "Dil Se re..." from 'Dil Se' for years. Only about a month back that there is a sort of a 'bell' like sound twinkling in that. This can be attributed to my poor observation all these years, but nevertheless, I got freaked out. How come did this guy manage to do this and even think of that. The word mind-blowing felt very apt at that time. Simply brilliant. Of course, the presence of a bell does not mean anything, but when you listen to it, maybe you can understand. So, it really is unfair to say A.R.Rahman's songs does not possess the same 'green' factor. It does. And how.... Megha
oops..! I never meant to insult the public. Also, I promise not to invoke ‘the millions’ line hereafter. Now, when I read that, it sucks. Big time.. I agree that every single opinion is as valuable as the consensus itself.
Well, as I said before, except for the ‘beedi’ song from omkara, none of it ‘worked for me’. You can also consider me to be one of the ignorant lot, since I had no idea there was a RMIM award, nor they even voted omkara higher than RDB. What I am trying to convey here is not whether the public is a fool or smart. It does not actually matter if you got hooked by the songs.
Personally, I LOVE RDB.. As a hard-core A.R.Rahman fan, I will even admit that I am favorably disposed towards him. But, after ManiRatnam-A.R.Rahman and A.R.Rahman-Ashutosh Gowariker combos, I felt RDB was right up there. Each song felt so good to listen. Time and again. Especially, Khalbali. I guess, the exact reason why you did not like it, was the reason I fell for. It does not conform to any genre. You cannot just slot Khalbali into a specific genre. When I said it created a different genre, I meant this. Khalbali is a genre of its own. I did not for a moment feel that it was trying to be so many things and could not achieve anything. I used to got crazy (and still do) everytime the “…zindeeeee..” part used to come on. I actually have no knowledge of either hindi or music in particular. I have no idea what the lyrics mean in any of the song. So, for any hindi song the music occupies the priority for me. Also, I have no freakin’ clue about the raagas or swaras involved. So, if you are asking me about ‘Khalbali’s genre, I have no clue. But, it sounds so f**kin good. I had no idea that some of the people (for instance, you) cannot accept Khalbali just because you felt it was more of a mixmash than an original masterpiece. So, I guess thats about it.

Also, I have no clue whatsoever about your latest post. I have never even heard about the ‘technicians’ you mentioned. I am a born tamil and can speak telugu fairly well (that explains about Chiru and the latest Mahesh Babu :) ) But cannot understand hindi for nuts. So, I am not exactly eligible to comment on that. But I do hope, that you notice that I am almost publishing a blogpost here. And then comment on whether my opinion here conveys why I felt RDB was better than Omkara in 2006.

gvenum
When I said about being diverse, I meant the different kinds of genres in a single soundtrack (and of course, which also tells us about the different instruments and the orchestration he has achieved.) The carefree, yet energetic ‘Paathshaala’ ( the singing is carefree, but the music which accompanies the singing is energetic and makes you get onto the dance floor) or the romantic ‘Tu bin…’ or the soul-stirring ‘Lukka Chuppi’ (only a few days back one of my friends explained to me what exactly each line of the lyrics in this song meant, and needless to say, I was floored..) Or Khalbali (Oh my god, I cannot even imagine how he thought of and composed this. Just brilliant, if you ask me..) the peppy ‘Rang de Basanti’ (I just love it, when the sweet voice of Chitra finds its way into our hearts..) Each song is as diverse as it can get,(you can at the most club ‘tu bin..’ and ‘lukka chuppi..’ together) and yet, was just awesome.. And I cannot understand hindi. Not yet…

Also, when when you said IR has got this ‘green’ factor, I can agree with that. But, it doesn’t mean that A.R.Rahman was not able to achieve that. IR was (and is) more famous for the melodies that he created than for the ‘peppy’ (or whatever we can call them) songs he composed. Also, films at that time were not open to this kind of ‘experimentation’ and so we can say IR never had the chance to try his hand at different genres. But, it will be fair to say, that given the state of technological advances we have now and compared to IR’s time, I doubt if he could have made it. Even now, he composes with his ‘harmonium’ and later tries to do the arranging and mixing. Whenever we has tried to be compose songs or fuse different genres, he has not been able to make it. So, IR’s songs are considered to have that ‘green’ factor are those melodies only. And he did lots of them because they were needed. If you consider the melodies A.R.Rahman has composed, you would find they were no less. Infact, some of them like “Yenna Solla Pogirai” from ‘Kandukondain Kandukondain’ (a Tamil film and Shankar Mahathevan sang that song and received a national award for that..) were just out of this world. So, it is really unfair to say A.R.Rahman’s songs does not have that ‘green’ factor. It does.

But, in the case of A.R.Rahman, if he was different from IlayaRaaja, then it must be said that he dared to be different. (It must be acknowledged that he had a fantastic director like ManiRatnam to mentor him and back him) But, A.R.Rahman’s music has, more often than not, been about the layers. I mean, other composers can virtually lift one of the sounds on a loop in a background and use ‘that’ tune for themselves. I am not sure I am able to explain this as well as I would have liked. But, let me give an example to help you understand what I am trying to convey. Now, I have been listening to “Dil Se re…” from ‘Dil Se’ for years. Only about a month back that there is a sort of a ‘bell’ like sound twinkling in that. This can be attributed to my poor observation all these years, but nevertheless, I got freaked out. How come did this guy manage to do this and even think of that. The word mind-blowing felt very apt at that time. Simply brilliant. Of course, the presence of a bell does not mean anything, but when you listen to it, maybe you can understand.

So, it really is unfair to say A.R.Rahman’s songs does not possess the same ‘green’ factor. It does. And how….

]]> By: Princess Stefania http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-34888 Princess Stefania Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:40:18 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-34888 Rise, dear girl. You have the Royal Pardon. ;) Rise, dear girl. You have the Royal Pardon.
;)

]]> By: yogi http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/comment-page-2/#comment-34853 yogi Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:13:22 +0000 http://www.meghalomania.com/2007/04/17/a-new-series/#comment-34853 i dont see movies.. déjà bhoo bhooo !! :( i dont see movies..

déjà bhoo bhooo !! :(

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